Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. Thanks a lot Simon. They are never mentioning it, but the leather is bookbinded. I have a pair of 9D shell chukkas that fits well, but after 2 months still has a little heel slip. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. https://eu.jmweston.com/en/collections/bottines-homme/products/edouard-chukka-boot-homme-cuir-veau-velours-marron-fonce, Thats certainly a risk with some French brands, but not usually with Weston. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Still tapered in in waist and heel for a comfortable lock in, but with more room in the toe box and at the ball. Loake Jockey last (G-Fit): 7UK fits but a bit roomy on chelsea boots. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. JavaScript is disabled. Even more troubling is that I found no review by an established website stating so. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . My personal experience I can unreservedly recommend Allen Edmonds (the Strand in particular). These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. To put JC on the same shelf as JL, EG, STC and the like is certainly a stretch. I just purchased them and they are in transit from Sweden. I loved the MTO experience there. Does anyone know if English makers tend to have wider heels than their Spanish (or other continental counterparts). My issue with C&J is that the range of G fits has been reduced significantly. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. You know what youre getting. Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. Theyre good at marketing and following trends in particular, and have done very well in recent years. C&J do not run their own shops. Of course manufacturing anything is significantly cheaper in Spain than the UK so the Spanish manufacturers are off to a good start in that regard with labour costs. I will look for a similar style shoe latest next year. * **Thomas George Popes** 7.5UK quite snug, grips heel well but pinches the toes a bit. E. D. E. Wide. Thing is that, not referring to Berluti necessarily now, but we do see a number of very famous bespoke shoemakers, not least in England, who the past years have started to put out shoes that arent properly made and/or have a proper fit. As Carmina did when it first became popular, and as TLB Artista (below) is perhaps doing now. Just make sure Trickers does not end up too chunky for you. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. It would be nice to see more posts on the different plateaus (?) The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Good arch support, toe box is low, but not too low, and just an all around comfy fit from day 1. Many thanks Simon as usual for the very informative article. Is it really that costly to offer and stock a range of widths/sizes in order to ensure customers can find a comfortable shoe? Viberg 2030: 10 - Good fit. The point about corrected Vs full grain leathers is not a meaningful distinction. Good arch support that's sculpted to he foot instead of the PNW Ladder rung shape. There might be a wide heel seat, for example, but then even some expensive English shoes like John Lobb have that.. You may learn more here. The Septieme Larguer felt very similar to the Andres Sendra from what I remember. I brought a pair of black Oxford brogues in a classic last for 109 that were from the previous season and a pair of Dark Leaf Calf Oxfords for 150 that had a negligible fault (even the staff had to look it up as it wasnt obvious). Buying a pair of Meermins is not a decision that you are going to regret, trust me. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. Noel it is precisely the point you make that has been behind my long standing decision to stay with C&J over all these years. Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. Not least their finer ranges are really nice IMO. This is certainly true, and prices mentioned in this article are towards each brands respective domestic markets.. Whats interesting is that for US customers it can go both ways depending on guidelines/restrictions from the brands. 9US is too generous, * **Red Wing 8 last (iron ranger)** 8.5D a bit snug on the sides of the mid foot, might've gotten away with 8.5E, * **Rider Boot 42 last** 9D comfortable fit, but lowish instep at the top makes it hard to put them on without shoehorn, * **RM Williams Comfort Craftsman** 8G with a little heel slip, * **TLB Mallorca Alan** 8F UK generous without being overly roomy. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #TobaccoVintageBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #Carmina #ShellCordovanBurdeosHorweenBoots---ALL UB playlist---: ht. i would think they sit somewhere between C&J and Loake/Barkers. Please take a look. I hope that makes sense. Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. Wolverine 1000 mile 9D: Gusseted tongue made the break in a little hard at first, overall a bit narrow and snug in the waist, but a very comfortable fit when broken in. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. Oak Street Bootmakers Elston 9.5D: Only tried on, seemed like a good fit, but the boots went back for a return. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? Perhaps other readers can. Among the many pairs I tried a pair of color 8 CXL beefrolls were the best fitting. Trickers are by no means accessible by price point (especially in the US) but get a pair from the outlet and you still have a pair of tanks that will last you for at least a decade. Apart from the differences in material qualities, a major difference between Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes is the price tags that these shoes are sold and distributed for. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Any feedback from you on this brand. And sorry for the long post, whenever I come across such I wonder whether the guy is a bit insane, but then, passion, what? They used to offer calf leather and Goodyear welting at incredible prices though the soles would wear quickly and their shops recommended Topy. I appreciate it doesnt work for everyone geographically, but most of the famous English brands are still manufactured in the Northampton region. Still a well-made shoe, but too much spent on marketing and retail. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. Regarding the soles, the comment was of course a generalisation, and of course British makers use European soles in most cases, that doesnt change anything. Of course second pairs usually come out better, and know there can be customers nagging on very small things, but certainly doesnt sound like it in your case. Although, suede uppers would take a long time to wear out. The two lasts I mentioned are super comfortable straight out of the box, and I can wear them all day without the slightest discomfort. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. You always get something more for your money (if you avoid big brands/designers) but the best value-for-money options will nearly always have been selected already by the cheaper brand. You are using an out of date browser. If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. What Id like to know is how much higher quality will the Trickers be over the Myrqvists? The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. REGULATION AND US. Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. Carmina vs Meermin: First glance Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. You must log in or register to reply here. Velasca uses a Blake/Rapid construction, so not Goodyear welted - but remember Blake/Rapid is more similar to Goodyear than it is to normal Blake. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? From time to time you find great deals for +/- USD 600. Suede. and maybe as far as a 37 in the Tanino, though that is a very rare size. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Finally, in terms of comfort, the insoles are much thicker and more comfortable in terms of conforming to the shape of my foot than any other shoes on this list (including Weston) other than Andres Sendra. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. I have gone through years of posts comments where US readers often praised the company and you alleged unawareness about it, sometimes citing Alden as the only US quality shoemaker known to you. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. The lower tier shoes arent and if C&J or EG are out of reach, go with Alden rather than any of the cheaper Northampton brands. Based on reviews, Im hopeful. Scotch Grain is particularly big and has its own production and stores, as well as being in department stores. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. spoo -- great thread idea (I'll soon add my info ). I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. 240 Last 9.5: Bad fit. When it comes to fashion quality, Carmina shoes come off as more stylish than the Meermin shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2','ezslot_8',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-large-mobile-banner-2-0');FASHIONABLE CARMINASFASHIONABLE CARMINAS. Ive never been sure if I am just more accepting of shoe prices or if I am proportional as I bulk at the idea of spending 400 on a jumper but happy to buy C&J main line. However Id like to venture another (partial) explanation (I have bespoke garments but no bespoke shoes): If the fit on an RTW shoe is good (comfortable all day, no blisters once broken in), is it really worth moving from C&J handgrade to bespoke? Thankfully, that isnt true of all high end companies that Ive experienced and, in general, I have found that the quality of the service matches that of the product. Kyle from Baker's later told me that my instep width is more like EE/EEE, which is what causes many of my fit issues around the mid-foot. But I am not a US citizen, at least no chauvinism involved. May have been fine with thinner socks. The Shelby boot has a lower instep as a result of the pattern as well. Alongside the quality of the leather, something thats lost at this lower price level is consistency. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. Particularly for certain watches perhaps, although less likely for certain muted bespoke suits which might fit better but wont look more expensive than a good of-the-peg one. I dont know anybody who owns a Mont Blanc wallet, but I know plenty of people who own Mont Blanc pens, and I dont see that ever changing. Why spend 400 retail when you can get a great pair of shoes for half that? are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. So on the making you get all closed channels, you get all leatherboard or even leather heel stiffeners, you get a rounded side on the heel on both inside and outside, a slightly bevelled waist etc. Id advise anyone whos a fan of RTW Northampton and Spanish shoes to go to the source and/or their stockists. The difference between the leather of Carmina shoes and the leather of Meermin shoes is that Carmina shoes are made with leather materials of a higher quality. Jesper thinks Skolyx (above) is better in this regard than the others, though he is biased*. What I had in mind though was a roundup like this one with Jespers input. I dont cover the other brands on this list normally either. Parkhurst 9D: Great fit. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. Switching to thin socks gives a very relaxed fit. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Alden Trublanace 9D: Far more volume than I need and a lot of play side to side in the ankle area but certainly comfortable. It might be somewhat boring, but the greatest shoe design can be quite a disappointment when theres puckering on seams, marks on the leather or misaligned stitching. Similar wide heel to the 1035. Barker has indeed several models in corrected grain, you find them under hi-shine on their own website. I guess I was wondering whether the differences in finer shoes were of this sort, especially because you have said before that you find your Aldens to be among your most comfortable shoes (but maybe that was more about lack of structure than anything else). Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. Other brands in this range include Septieme Largeur, Andres Sendra and Janko. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. Meermin (above) has also become big, mostly in the US. Buy Meermin shoes today because of how affordable they are. Parkhurst 18 Last 9D: Too narrow, should have gone TTS. Thanks for this, Simon. A lot of influencers will also swear that it is box calf, which goes a long way to show either their incompetence or lack of integrity. Unstructured toe box feels a touch low, * **Yanko 955** 7.5UK fits snug but comfortable with thin socks to start. Matty: Late reply, but noticed your comment just now. But now I can confidently say this was the right choice and it is worth breaking that arch in to get fit and support of this level. I'm trying to suss out sizing for several models: I don't know if I can help, but I will give it a go - do bear in mind, of course, that everyone's feet are different. Honest , relevant and informative. 8UK was much too loose. Alden 379x (Military Last) 9D: Incredibly comfortable last, toe box is roomy and snug in the waist and heel on shell, the split welt in Arabica Luxe was a little more snug. Really? Simon, I doubt even your wealthier readers walk around every day in 500 plus shoes. If you don't have a lot of volume I would be pretty cautious with their loafers. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Brett has called it an EE width in the past, I don't think its much wider than the 2030 at the ball where it matters most, but the heel is extra wide and the toe box doesn't taper as much so there's more toe room as well. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. Wesco MP1339 9E: It's alright, toe box is really low and the gusset take up volume running the whole way up the boot as it is fully gusseted. Feels okay but gets painful in the midfoot as the day progresses. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. Allen Edmonds still made really good shoes twenty years ago, but their attempt at becoming an all around clothing brand with its own shops really harmed the quality of the shoes. I could not ask for a better fitting oxford. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. Buttero Tanino: UK9, still breaking in but fits well. Jesper concludes by saying: You cant expect to get a really premium shoe for an entry-level price, and you shouldnt get too excited at places that promise that. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. Assuming that none have cracks or discolorations, are there significant differences in how different grades of suede used for shoes wear over time? Unfortunately almost all clothing has diminishing returns as you pay more, and thats certainly the case with shoes. ??? Carminas just dont break down easily. Loake1880 is good starting point and it used to be a very good value. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. And of course I could be wrong, but still believe theres something behind it. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. This is more than just the upper, but depending on the build, the leather insole will mold and compress to the foot. To me, the leather feels similar to Carmina, though possibly even stiffer and more inflexible. I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam so I know these companies. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. In that regard, let me plug TLB as a particularly sound value proposition. Theyre both very big brands now.. On the other hand, Meermins wont last you as long as Carminas will. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. Everything from the finishing, to the thick upper, to the last shape seemed cheap and unattractive. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. meister Stylish Dinosaur Joined Feb 10, 2007 Messages 10,772 Reaction score 2,515 Dec 28, 2011 #9 On the raw materials, you get oak-bark tanned soles, you get the top level of upper, and so on. Finally somebody else who has experienced Meermin shoes as very hard to break in. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. Note: I have pretty weird feet, slim waist, slim heels, slightly high instep, and low volume. Ive been a big fan of Crockett & Jones, Carmina and Edward Green. Its a company started in 2014 that I discovered today. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. I have to disagree. Perhaps I need to re-examine what value I place on shoes. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. Thanks for the informative post. Worn with normal dress socks. 3. The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like Scotch Grain (above) and Otsuka, with brands like Miyagi Kogyo and Oriental on a level above that. Its just the next level up. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. I wrote an article about it many years ago on the Swedish version of Shoegazing (before English was launched) which, to summarise, had the conclusion that its down to vanity. Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. Carmina shoes are made with premium materials that are much superior to materials used for making Meermin shoes. There are many brands in that segment, such as Joeworks or October Tenth, that I think might appeal to a fair number of PS readers. I have had a very different experience with EG service. Because every Carmina thread is comprised of "what size am I" questions. Bought before I understood my size. Thus, not likely to be much different from your C&J in terms of make, but the last and the leather may differ. Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. This is interesting my experience is the complete opposite. Also, the chunky sole and derby construction arent that suited to suits. Then last but not least, my longwing pair (not available anymore I'm afraid). The heel is the most notably roomier and the length actually seems to be the same. Certainly if I looked at them close up I could tell, and I could also tell if I was wearing them. Take for instance Santoni, Prada or S. Ferragamo. Thanks Aidan. Ie if you spend 500 on a pair of shoes youd probably be looking at circa 2,000 for your suit and 150 for your shirt. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. Myrqvist, which we mentioned at the start, is one of these and uses fairly good raw materials - sourced from well-known tanneries like Du Puy in France. The leather used to make Carmina shoes is better than the leather materials used to make Meermin shoes. I just read on an Spanish forum that Meermin and Carmina used to buy together batches of leather from the same place. Ive gradually moved more towards the Handgrade products, though not entirely, as the range of styles is more limited. I bought AS through him when they were the best value for money in higher end shoes then moved to C&J on his advice. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. Thanks. I happily pay the very reasonable cost for a brand providing a certain width, a good service, retaining the lasts that suits me and other added values. Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? Theres so many men who more or less only buy bespoke tailoring, and who can spend enormous amount of money on watches etc. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. Will never purchase from that brand again. Bored of counting likes on social networks? If I may add to this discussion, i recently purchased a pair of burgundy penny loafers from morjas. Carminas actually have better fits than Meermin shoes. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. I would caution anyone against reading the shoegazing blog. They are slightly cheaper than the C&J handgrade line, though I am not sure what drives the difference. Frankly, I wouldnt wear anything else. Its also an experience shared by many others with much more experience than me of various brands, and something Ive been told by both retailers who sell both British and European shoes, and not least cobblers. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Both these shoemakers offer value far and a way above a UK shoe at a similar price point so they really are worth a look for a person prepared to put in the effort. Ended up selling years later. Allen Edmonds on the other hand has been declining in quality. Im starting to wonder if the differential is worth it. No need to own property, employ shop staff etc etc. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. Initially I tried 9E because many people recommend 1/2 size down and 1 width up for this last. Did not break in enough to be able to wear even thin socks. Its a EEE and taller toe box with room everywhere. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. After further research I stand by my words. Thin socks preferred due to somewhat narrow toe box. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. Carmina is the best of the Mallorca-based shoemakers (which includes Meermin and TLB Mallorca), but is more expensive than either Meermin or Spier & Mackay by about double. I mean, things can go wrong, I see no problems with that, but then it has to be handled properly and fixed (Ive had a finished pair redone from two different makers, in one case it was since an error was made on one of the things modified on the lasts from the fitting shoe, on the other a small damage happened when the lasts was pulled. Below that, there are smaller differences created by new entrants to the market. Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). If you can spend that extra 100-150 I sincerely recommend buying a pair of shoes from Carmina or TLB Artista. Comfy fit. However about 5 years ago they reached some export deals with local retailers here in Canada and is sold here for over 500, where I used to get them shipped from England for 2-300. By far the highest quality of any of the brands on this list (and in my opinion, the most elegant lasts). American brands seem to be better at this (Alden, AE). I wear chup socks with all of my shoes and boots these days, but for some of these I wore Darn Tough crew light or Darn Tough cushioned boot socks. You could specify any combo you wanted (dark navy to black, or dark purple to black, etc.) Way too narrow all around, last too tapered for my taste. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. 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