well that is a list. 37 Dirk Nowitzki. But now, the debate will rage on forever about just how high he can keep reaching. Made with Vidzzy.com. That's the best way to describe him this season. Charles Barkley was a guy who at 6-6 was probably the 2nd best offensive rebounder in the NBA. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He's about to become the fifth player in NBA history to average 35 points a game (along with Wilt, MJ, Elgin and Rick Barry). 01. Send a Message. His criteria was "I'm trying to win in the playoffs THIS YEAR. Carmelo Anthony has stepped up last seasonmore years like that and hell be on the list, moses malone? Kobe BryantYou don't know how much this kills me. Kobe had a shot at MVP, but so did Dirk, Nash, Lebron among others. I prefer Jokics kind of basketball. Bill Russell 03. Hakeem Olajuwon 5. I generally dont disagree with bills lists. It is what it is. Barkely averaged 22 points, almost 12 rebounds, (4 offensive), and 4 assists in his 15 year career.. much better than Iversons 26, 6 assists, and almost 4 rebounds in his 14 year career (so far, but those numbers will keep going down if he keeps trying to play.) You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2021/6/13/22532553/unexpected-bucks-nets-drama. Il propose des spectacles sur des thmes divers : le vih sida, la culture scientifique, lastronomie, la tradition orale du Languedoc et les corbires, lalchimie et la sorcellerie, la viticulture, la chanson franaise, le cirque, les saltimbanques, la rue, lart campanaire, lart nouveau. Shaquille O'neal 8. Show more Show more Brian and James Sit Down to Talk I really believe that the ABA stats of players should be at least noted & taken into consideration when we make All Time Great lists.. WebBill Sharman 50. cunningham: 13,626 points 6,638 rebs 2,625 assists, wilkins: 26,668 points 7,167 rebs 2,667 assists, dwyane wade has only played 6 1/2 years and almost has as many points as cunningham so nice try negating my points you blabbering idiots, 85. He won a record six MVP awards and was a 19-time All-Star. Simmons changed the ranking of kobe in the updated release of his book from 15 to 7 after he won 2 rings. A subreddit dedicated to NBA news and discussion. Curry is a three-timechampion, two-timeMVP, two-time scoring leader and the only unanimous MVP in NBA history. He dragged an extremely week Cavs roster to the second round after winning 50 games looking like a wrecking ball. Something went wrong. On the most recent episode of his podcast, Simmons named (in order) his top 15 in the "Pantheon.". Report. A GREAT book for NBA fans. Then they discuss the Clippers blowout Game 3 win over the Jazz, best Finals narratives, Hawks-76ers, and more (52:00). Wilt Welcome to the Pantheon, Steph Curry. There are varied payment schemes to hire a recruitment outsourcing company that will be based on which kind of talents your business needs. Michael Jordan 02. billy cunningham ahead of dwyane wadehas anyone even heard of billy cunningham, wades a champion (NBA and Olympic). Yea True, but you have to respect what they did in their era. Nobody else on the team dares to challenge him. simmons just did an article about a week ago in espn the mag where he said he wanted to make some changes to his book and one of the changes was that Kobe moved into the top 10 and went from being selfish to a guy who was about winning. "I'm not gonna see another Steph Curry," Simmons said. I don't have a ton of major problems with the list. All 4 panelists picked the Lakers in both hypotheticals. 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He does comprehensive research when he does this shit. Dolph Schayes 49. Bill Simmons' Top Ten NBA Teams Of All Time (ROSTERS) Can you name the 12-man playoff rosters (and coaches) of Bill Simmons' Ten Greatest NBA Teams of All Time? Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. In other words, we have a little hindsight bias with them. It is just their own weird, conclusory assumption with no evidence at all. Magic Johnson 6. Bill Simmons legitimately hates the Timberwolves and because of it has always had negative things to say about Karl. WebTop 10 NBA Players of All Time - Bill Simmons. okay maybe i was wrong with malone ill admit my errors. He made up with Phil. He is maybe top 960, being generous. There is a 7 year difference, but I actually like ESPN's list more. Bill Russell 9. Kobe meanwhile just was the Lakers for most games. Would an MVP ever get decimated like that by someone who plays the same position? ESPN states their rankings are based on "both peak performance and career value.". He gets all the credit. A couple things to keep in mind when comparing the two lists: Bill Simmons published The Book of Basketball in 2009. You have to read the book.but ill help you. But if i saw gunna compile a best players list i would go by skill and athleticism and mmore towards this era because lets face it these are the best athletes in the world playing now and they could get by with that against some of the older players back in the day, People that need to be higher: Pistol pete changed the nba game forever Rodman- maybe im biased but hes got 5 rings and 2x defensive player of the year and 7 defensive first team and 7 time rebounding leader at 6 foot 7/8. Press J to jump to the feed. It's like losing your cool card if you admit you like him around here or something. I've enjoyed Simmons for decades. Tim Duncan 10. (It was like ordering one of those fancy foreign beers at a bar, the ones in the heavy green bottles with the 13-letter name that you can't pronounce, only someone else is drinking it, so you say to yourself, "Ah, screw it, I'm tired of the beer I always drink, lemme try one of those.") Where Barkley wanted teammates and wanted someone who he can defer to, Iverson drove teammates away from him and only passed if he had to. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. The guy led league in assists, was the best perimeter defender in the NBA, and also happened to lead his team in rebounds, all while taking them to back-to-back NBA Finals (something Nash never did in Phoenix as a system player). Dave DeBusschere 44. And as expected, basketball fans are tearing the list apart from top to bottom, pick by pick. I realize that we can not combine them.. He's the only current player whose unselfishness seems to transfer (almost by osmosis) to everyone else on his team. Moncrief ends up too low on both lists, but yeah. Bill said in his AMA here (I'm on phone, maybe I'll post the link later If anybody do) that he ranks LeBron 6th and Duncan 7th now, behind the original top 5. Data Provided By So rank the Top Dozen from each Decade.. Its fun debating but its impossible to compare players from different Eras, So 1970s Top 12 or 15: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr.J Julius Erving, Moses Malone, Bill Walton, Bob McAdoo, Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Elvin Hayes, Wes Unseld, Pete Maravich, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowens, Mychal Thompson, Bernard King, 1980s: Jordan, Magic, Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, James Worthy, Kevin McHale, Dominique Wilkens, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 04. These are subjective lists. Billy Cunningham played in the olympics, was a top SF in his era and won 2 rings. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard While positional drills may be more indicative of a player's success in the NFL, other events like the 40-yard dash, three-cone drill and bench press are less obvious. WebBill Simmons' top 40 players (from pod with Rusillo) His criteria was "I'm trying to win in the playoffs THIS YEAR. Magic It was almost Bondsian. How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? Give Orange. For players who were injured or missed the playoffs, I think he ranked them based on how they would be expected to play if healthy/in the playoffs. Bill Simmons has several Celtics ranked considerably higher than ESPN. Curry put the final stamp with a 34-point masterpiece in Game 6 on Thursday night at TD Garden, ending the Finals in six games with a 103-90 victory over the Boston Celtics. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Jason Kudos to him for increasing his scoring and seamlessly integrating seven new teammates into Phoenix's offense; in many ways, he was better than last season. I really feel like Jason Kidd is the best point guard weve seen since Magic. Web#shorts In this video, we'll be discussing the top 10 NBA players of all time, as chosen by our expert basketball analyst. In a weird way, Kobe ended up getting what he always wanted: The Lakers completely revolve around him. Most of this is subjective anyway. People can't even predict win totals correctly for established teams (see: Vegas making money every year), let alone win totals for hypothetical teams they created. Answer: Kobe. Press J to jump to the feed. I think they are on the money with some of their current player rankings. Only Michael Jordan is the only other player to accomplish that feat. Seems to me many current players like Lebron and Steph, while great, need to continue producing at high levels alot more in order to truly earn those rankings. Why the hell is Robert Horry on this list? 2010s: Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, Paul George, John Wall, Boogie Cousins, Uni-brow Davis, Andre Drummond. Comments. 830 points 442 comments 47 Related Topics Durant never did this. Alex English one of the better scorers the game has seen, People to go down Moses malone Pantheon? I think that is now a legitimate argument, Simmons says. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. He was an all time great shooter and passer that didnt shoot enough. And just when it kept seeming like he might wear down, he'd toss up another 50 just to keep you on your toes. Also, just to remind everyone Towns is no longer considered a net-negative on the defensive end. I think hes in the top 10 for me now., Has Steph solidified himself as a top-10 NBA player of all time? He was 16. Kobe is now top 10 per a recent simmons article. We've added shooting handedness for all players in WNBA history to player pages! This site has no affiliation with the National Basketball Association | Website by, http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/statistics?statsId=0020, http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=366. Terrible team. But this year? Nash in my opinion was just way too one sided to get an MVP in general and they gave him two. Find In Part 2 of the two-part Sunday podcast, The Ringers Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss Chris Paul and the Suns bouncing the Nuggets from the playoffs, why this Suns team is the perfect fit for Chris Paul, how this season ranks among old-guy title runs, and more (3:00). Plus Barkley shot MUCH better from the field, and .5% behind in Free throws. Kobe Bryant. You don't have to love every component of his three criteria, but together they are a pretty reasonable way to illustrate why it was inarguably Kobe that season. see I would swap 33 and 34, that makes no sense to me, I think Lavine could be a perennial shooting guard on a better team. He The former MVP has adapted and evolved to become an excellent conductor of Phillys offense. Michael Jordan 2. 3: If you replaced every MVP candidate with a decent player at their position for the entire season, what would be the effect on their teams' records? From Michael Jordan's unparalleled scoring prowess to Bill Russell's unmatched winning mentality, these players have left an indelible mark on the league and continue to inspire generations of basketball fans. Re: Bill Simmons Top 10 Players/Teams in NBA History. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Certainly some. Link to full article: https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060414#:~:text=He's%20the%20Black%20Mamba%2C%20he's,Sports%20Guy's%20World%20site%20here. Michael Jordan 02. /s. It was not a slam dunk at all. I like the Book of basketball. Plus, the top 40 NBA players right now, Kyries injury, and more. That was my issue with the Lebron ranking. So after this transcendent Finals run, where does he rank all time? Bookmark Quiz Bookmark Quiz Bookmark. It's not gonna be different, is it? Kobe was relentless. However, it seems well be consigned to refreshing Twitter and Reddit for the next couple of weeks. The dude scored 62 in three quarters against Dallas, then 81 against Toronto a few weeks later. Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul Nate Thurmond 43. Payton 41. They didnt even play the same game back then. Just a fyi. Surprised to come into the comments and see negativity when compared to a lot of old Simmons takes, this has aged incredibly well. 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